Han Armin verkar ju väldigt trevlig och hjälpsam iaf.

Men tråkigt att det ska vara så mycket strul, man får hoppas att det är värt det i slutändan?

+1 variabel i rattdjungeln för min del, då.

Problem solved!



Laddade ned ett program från Microsoft som rensade bort den gamla installationen. "Windows Install Clean Up"
Därefter gick installationen som en dans!

Ratten och pedalerna känns riktigt bra. Det kommer nog att ta tid att vänja sig.

Gick tok fort för mig att vänja mig vid pedalerna. Kanske för att man inte kört på 6 månader man var avprogrammerad från de gamla pedalerna redan?

Synd att man inte kan bifoga bilagar här på forumet. Gjort ett litet försök att recensera ratten men jag copy och pastar i stället då. På engelska för att slippa skriva den två gånger.

Fanatec GT 3 RS Clubsport edition review

Introduction
This is actually my third Fanatec wheel. I got lucky getting into the beta programme
for the original 911 turbo wheel. Liked it enough to sell my G25 and buy the 911 turbo and now
the GT 3 RS. Reference wheels being primarily Momo Force red, DFP and of course the G25.
Reference pedals: Frex pedals, CST pedals
Shifters: SST Lightning Shifter

The Package
The package came in two boxes. One with the wheel and one with the pedals.
the quick manual broschure the only paper to come with it. The manual for the RS is still not up
but some info available here for potential issues http://fanatec.de/html/index.php?id=3116&lang=en

The pedals come with one extra spring and one longer metal rod for the brake.
The wheel come with an extra pare of metal shifters. The silver steel ones you seen on pictures.
I didn't order the shifters since I kept the old identical ones I had for the old 911 turbo wheel.


Installation
This section is perhaps longer then it should be. The mounting system for the wheel and shifters is
identical to the old 911 turbo wheel. The shifters attaches to two aluminium rods that goes through
the wheel. The wheel is either attached by the clamp or permanently with bolts.
The pedals can either be attached directly to your PC using USB. Only way to use the
max precision of the magnetic pots. For console gaming or racing games that just allow one game
controller you attach them with the PS/2 contacts to the wheel and they then act as 8-bit controllers
(255 iterations).

As for drivers they installed flawlessly on Vista 64-bit but it took two days to get the 091 drivers
installed on XP. I had similar problems with installing the previous 911 turbo drivers. After getting
the drivers installed no problems at all.

The Wheel
This wheel uses Alcantara instead of the older 911 turbos leather. It also have thumb grooves to
the grip is a bit thinner then on the older wheel. It's very thick still compared to the logitech wheels
like the G25 and DFP though and quite a bit larger in diametre. I am not hundred percent sure if I
preferr the 911 turbo grip over this but they are both leaps and beyond any other wheel grip I
have used including the Momo Force Red which was my previous benchmark. As for looks
wheel beeing porsche wheels they look more like something you would find in serie produced cars
rather then dedicated race cars but at least you get the racing stripe and aggressive orange colour.
Again I am not sure if I preferr this or the more discrete design of the older 911 turbo wheel but
they surely look nice.

Also new is the metal shifter paddles from the 911 turbo. Originally there was going to be the silver
metal paddles I mentioned earlier. They where replaced for some paddles with less foot print painted
black instead since your fingers didn't fit underneith. However the design of the black metal paddles
aren't that much better. They feel nice in use even though I would preferr more resistance but they
still manage to get in the way for my thumb and fingers at time. I ended up running just with the
ordinary buttons and not looking back. For me this is the best solution for this wheel.

The LCD display is back. It let you adjust force feedback strength off/33/66/100.
Steering angle 210/360/540/900, vibrations motors on/off and allow for five presets.
Plugins for rFactor allow them to display speed, gear, fuel etc though you sadly can't cycle this
information. You can also map the rumble motors to gear shifts, engine revs, abs.
Personally I haven't found any real use for the vibration motors. It's just distracting since it
doesn't really integrate with the force feedback well.
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Now how it performs on track is where the pudding is and performs it does.

I have never felt the force feedback being that real with other wheels then the 911 turbo.
Some like the G25 gives you almost as much information but
they fail to produce realistic force feedback. I can drive my Saab or Volvo and get a silly
smile on my face when I get the same effects like during my simracing with the GT 3 RS.
The turning feel is super smooth.. There is no notchy feel since this is belt driven.
There is no mechanical deadzones anywhere neither in term of the wheel or force feedback.
The self centering is way better then any other force feedback wheel I tested and none wheel
I previously owned have the FFB capabilities of my Fanatec wheels. Where I often maxed out
the G25 and that for me giving optimum resistance I am seldom running that high on the GT 3 RS
I actually often found it a bit much for desktop racing on the 911. However with the newer drivers with
support for both damping (generally better to avoid) and drift mode (drift mode think powersteering)
you have much more options to getting the amount of resistance you are comfortable with.
The drift mode really comes to it's own in RBR. Set it quite high and you can wave as much as you
want without feeling you fight the wheel to much without it still being all muddy in force feedback.

The only complaint except for the paddles and the mounting system perhaps being a bit better
is that the fan that kicks in when the wheel start to get hot
is of a really noisy character. Create some resonances it seems.
Should be fixed for the second revision since it's a known issue..

Shifters:
The paddle shifters works great though would preferr the buttons to be a bit stiffer. Never ever double
shifted or missed a shift yet though. The sequential shifter and H-shifter (both not included in the
GT 3 RS Clubsport package) both have a lot of resistance to them in contrast to the G25 shifter.
That doesn't go along perfectly with the not so secure mounting. for the H-shifter meaning it
requires even more force to get the gears into place. Even though I uses a beta version of the table
clamp it still flexes quite a bit making my entire wheel and monitor shake for each shift.
Personally I found the G25 to sloppy and these are just to stiff. Stiffer then any gear box I have
ever used so requires dedication. Always fun to slam in gears. Not recommended procedure for
the G25 but this is designed to take it. One more complaint is the noise it makes.
It has an intentionally loud click noise as you enter gears. You can't use it if you have
someone sleeping in the room next to you then it's back to paddle shifters. The material used
doesn't quite match the wheel and of course not the CSP. You can feel the plastics flex a bit
and it make quirky noises.

The sequential is on the other hand quite perfect. Very nice feel to it and here the mounting
system isn't holding it back.


Clubsport Pedals
These was what sold me on it. I do own CST pedals but want some decent pedals for my
console racing as well. If there was a weak point the 911 turbo had it was the Fanatec
stock pedals which left a bit to desire.

From first look you can both see and feel how solid they are. They are 100 % rock solid there is
no flex anywhere. As for looks as you may understand don't quite match this
http://cannonsimulationtechnologies.com/user/cimage/CST-3R-with-Floor- . . . .
Just to show you what benchmark I am running them against if you think I am to picky.
I do like it's clean look though that also means you see the cables. Clean from the the racing
point of view anyway

It uses magnetic pots for clutch and throttle and the brake has a loadcell.
Should add that there is a vibration motor on the brake but it's really weak. Supposed to
simulate ABS braking in rFactor but well didn't get much of that. Gimmick as this
feature is implemented by now.

A big selling point for these more expensive pedals is the ability to tweak them to
your liking. Watch this video http://www.porsche911turbowheel.de/?q=node/1987
to see how it works.

The customability could still be better though. Adjusting the pedal travel by using different holes
causes major differences. Instead of having to find longer or shorter rods for more fine tuning
maybe some spacers could be included for throttle and clutch. with their 10 or 12-bit sensors
you still get plenty of precision even if you don't use the entire pot.

Same as for brake in stock configuration you get very long throw similar to the G25.
The load cell really doesn't come into play before about 75 % of the pedal movement.
Running in the second hole I get about 10 mm throw. to fine tune it more you have
to cut the rubber or find a shorter rod. Also might add that as standard there is a significant
deadzone on the brake. If you want to reduce or remove it Fanatec have released a firmware
to let you choose how much deadzone you want. http://www.porsche911turbowheel.de/?q=node/2037

I landed on the shorter, stiffer brake just make better use of the load cell that way and
throttle and clutch at stock settings. That setup also let me rest my feet on the brake and apply a bit
of pre pressure. One more feature I haven't covered is that the pedals have a potentiometre to
adjust the max pressure of the load cell. Works brilliantly for fine tuning the pressure needed.

As for feel the clutch and throttle have quite long throw. With such short movement you really get to
focus on pressure rather then trying to feel how long you have pushed down the pedal. I feel I get even
better brake feel then on my CST pedals. CST pedals and nixim brake modded G25 pedals have more
real brake feel but I just can't as accurately judge how much braking pressure I apply.

As for field testing I have focused mostly on the Camaro from STCC at Barcelona. That car can get quite
wormy during braking from my experience. To my surprise I got much less of that with the CSP
pedals despite having so little time with them. On the other hand the CST pedals is more immersive
since they just feels more like the pedals I am used to. So far my PB is with the CSP pedals so
I think I can say for sure that from a performance perspective they are competing with the best


About the mounting: Nothing is more annoying then moving pedals. On my cockpit which has a metal
floor using the stock setting no extra support was needed. With the stiffer brake though you are better
off either permanently mounting them or getting some plank or something behind them to push against
since then the pressure get to much for the rubber feet to handle.

Summary:.
Still here?

Well to sum it up.
Fanatec have a real nice wheel here. Some design changes from the 911 turbo didn't really pay
and shown signs of premature product launch. Things like the paddles which are not totally
thought through.Why hasn't the mount system being updated?. The table clamp is a great solution let you
tilt the wheel and get a rock solid mount but that costs extra. The fan noise.

Clubsport pedals is a major improvement over the stock pedals and
hard to beat for bang for the buck. Main competitor nixim modded G25 pedals.

Shifters:
Would love a H-shifter rev 2 with it's own separate mount and perhaps slightly better materials used
and less crazy on the resistance and noise please.
Sequential perfect as is.

That's about it. As for the inevitable G25/GT 3 RS? no brainer for me. With the GT 3 RS I really
don't find a single plus on the G25 except for being cheaper but for a reason